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unwrinkled ear -
Subject: need wah wah
I'm going through a serious jones for jerry's 70s wah wah. Can you guys point me to your favorite wah wah moments? (I started looking for shakedowns since I knew that would take the edge off, but i need MORE, and other tunes.)
Subject: set II is epic and all time!
It is in fact my favorite show. I've loved different eras for different reasons but this is it for me. A true "music never stops" 2nd set - Its got such a fantastic solo(interplay) between Jerry and Bobby's singing on Saint Of Circumstance- There is a sense of real commitment to the songs, the uplifting togetherness , the players almost dance themselves, and the listening between them is so inspiring (thats right you can hear how they listen-if you're musician you get it) - the emotional quality is undeniable. So much groove, fantastic. I used to play tapes and pitch correct them and then master them so people would shut up about that 1974 show (everyone has) where they think Phil was on crack playing so fast...tape machines... gotta love 'em. SO many tape machines record at different speeds - you get them after dub 400...no telling what the speed it is at that point you get it. In any event, when I set this show to the right pitch and speed, the groove was incredible. Now, like others, I've never been able to find this show completely- my version clips during Wharf Rat too- SO sad. It doesn't even fit on the inferior sounding 120min cassette.
I've had people tell me "dude I have the hookup for any show bro- killer quality from the vault"....hmmm So I just ask for this show and I never hear back- Or they say its incomplete- If someone out there can make it happen, I'll personally make your favorite show sound better than you've ever heard it- If you have the show completely in a good quality-Please let me know.
I enjoy scanning thru all of these wonderful shows here on archive and listening to all the different versions of songs. I think this version of china cat sounds pretty cool!! I like the overall sound they played from 81-83.
David Bolewski -
Subject: As clear as a blue sky.
I have a bootleg album of the second set from this show. At the time(1985)it was a jewell and had little wear on it and played mighty fine in conjunction with a good turntable. The cover says digital recording.hmmmmm. interesting. You know it's hard to say what kind of master tapes from tapers are out there, stuff locked in attics,basements,destroyed by fires,lost,taped over or gems just waiting. Perhaps some audio buff engineers where test driving the new digital technology and it's just a matter of time and patience before we have it on the archive.'The Wheel' is the best version iv'e ever heard with some unbelievable delicate interplay between Jerry and Bobby. Shakedown street is breezin' all the way.Goodtimes is perfect. Lost Sailor and saint are excellent versions. 5 for performance 4 for quality of sound. Jerrys guitar almost speaks in that wheel jam
Subject: my first deadshow
this recording rocks! btw, thanks you guys! amid the sea of the great unwashed, tie-died hippy chicks, and the murky depths of the long beach arena, i took in my first deadshow only familiar with a few tunes from skeletons from the closet, i had no idea about the jamming, the jamming, and by the way, the jamming...i wasnt sure whether i liked it or not, but i had a great time. i already knew i had stumbled onto something not so ordinary...i remember knowing the alabama getaway opener-from the radio! i remember friend of the devil-boy it sounded different than the version on skeletons-and i remember the fire on the mountain after hearing it on my sister's 8-track(she had shakedown)..musically, thats all i remember-i recall on the way home we stopped at a restaurant whose maitre'd took one look at us and said " i dont think you boys are too interested in going inside" so we stopped at Denny's and we were so giddy we spilled our drinks and got kicked out-o youth-wasted on the young!
Subject: better copy posted
There is a copy of this show on this archive that has the missing pieces patched in from an audience source so don't waste your time downloading this copy- get the complete show!
Subject: Prob better to have been there
china cat>I know you rider rocks, lost>saint, and some other stuff but overall they are all over the place blowing lyrics just does not play all that well. Wheel and Spanish Jam redeem this however and clear through wharf rat its a diff show.
Subject: Flubbing lyrics
It hurts my ears to listen when Jerry and Bobby muff the words.
As for the music...outstanding.
Subject: I went to this show, first reviewer is correct on name of Brent's tune.
Yes, Brent's song really is called Good Time Blues ! I remember in Las Vegas someone went to his hotel room and asked him what that song was called. Sort of like Peggy-O is really Fenario. I also refuse to call Improvisation "Space", since there is no air in outer space, there for no sound is possibly. However, apparently the band sanctions this moniker so I guess I loose on that argument.
In any case, as the others have said, this was, quite a show. Many folks have the impression the band or at least many of the fans don't like L.A. and perhaps they're right to a certain extent for understandable reasons.
Regardless of the validity of this notion; they sure played a lot of great shows in Southern California (Santa Barbara to Chula Vista), (which of course could be said for many parts of the country), but Long Beach seemed to consistently be good; even more so than in other venues in this area ! However, like other venues in and around L.A., the earlier ones are generally better than the later ones, or should I say the later ones are generally not as good as the earlier ones with some exceptions. A trend kind of like the New Year's shows after the closing of Winterland.
But back to this show, note the beginning of Truckin' when Bob uses a whistle, (not quite as shrill as later times), and Brent does a "circus" like intro !
Subject: The balls!
This was my first tape, back in high school, so I'll admit to being a bit sentimental. That being said, this show still resides atop my list of favorites. Nobody's ever been able to point me to a better Shakedown (the recording glitch in the first minute or so notwithstanding), and the jams around Good Times (i.e., Never Trust ...) are just smoking. So, I might add, is the Spanish Jam. This is the kind of show that you want to just set aside a block of uninterrupted time to just listen to it. Warning: harsh reel cut in Wharf Rat. Too bad the end of this show is AWOL.
Good show and nice sound, but it should be noted that the very beginning of both Jack Straw and Shakedown Street are cut. There is also a cut in Never Trust a Woman. I remember these issues with my old cassettes as well.
Subject: some comments
shakedown is the FUNK. I believe it was after this show that Jerry bought Brent his first rolex. ;)
source has at least one analog gen, but hiss is minimal.
Seperation of Dead and State -
Subject: Change of Pace
The second set soundboard is red-hot. Garcia is throwing some serious heat with Mydland backing him up with some funky offspeed stuff. A pre-drums Wheel is rare enough and the jam out of it has a real Malibu feel floating and dancing with a Stevie Wonder groove to it.....the Shakedown is also real slow and trance-like unlike the speed versions from 84-85. Garcia may have been chasin the dragon but he shot a load tonight. The second set is also available on vinyl....many of the songs are listed in hilarious monachers....$30 at PDQ. Please get this show.